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If it is easier to get backlinks for a webpage through social bookmarking sites than it is with articles, why not just create a webpage which reviews the product and point your aricles to it? Perhaps this would also make it convert a little better?
Bruce, It is probably easier to get backlinks to a regular website than it is articles….
What most people don’t understand is that getting your articles to rank allows you to take up more than one position in the search engines, more importantly, more than one position on the front page.
Not to mention the fact that I am already getting traffic daily from the articles whereas if I just had a page out there I probably wouldn’t be getting very much traffic at all yet.
Having a presell page is important, but getting articles ranked and getting residual traffic is what makes article marketing worth the time.
What about this? You currently have all your articles pointing to the product site. What if you pointed all your articles to a presell page and still built backlinks to your articles as you described? In my mind, you would probably see a better conversion rate because you are pre-selling in addition to having your articles occupying a number of positions in the search engines.
One more question regarding Angela Edwards’ WSO. I was under the impression that incoming links needed to be relevent to your content. Obviously, the links she provides aren’t going to be specifically related to your particular niche. For instance, having a hockey site pointing to your penis enlargement article. How do the search engines see this? Could you please elaborate?
Bruce, I definitely agree with the need for presell pages and sites in general
I have them for almost every last one of my niches. But, the thing that we are trying to show here is how to get the most traffic from articles. More importantly, what steps need to be taken to obtain good rankings.
As far as links being relevant, some of the sites that she has provided allowed you to get a PR link on Adobe and some other high profile sites. These types of sites will help you regardless of the content
Look at it this way too…Most of our links regardless of the niches we are in come from article directories, social bookmarking, and other similar strategies, right? Most of the sites themselves have nothing at all to do with the content on our actual website.
The difference being…Google highly respects, Nasa, Adobe, Microsoft (well not really them lol), and many of the other large sites out there that are considered the go to people for their respective niches/industries. Many are billion dollar companies. Google’s algorithm will look at these links as… “Well if these bad boys think this site is worth a damn and casting their vote then that is ok with us!”
I understand what you are saying. However, am I on to something with the process I described? Keep in mind, I am new to all of this and trying to piece together an effective strategy for myself. In no way am I trying to debate with you or question your tactics.
Thanks for the clarification about the links. There is so much contradicting information about this stuff. I have a hard time knowing what to believe. I guess the best thing to do is get out there and take action rather than analyzing every little detail.
Bruce, you have the right idea
I didn’t think you were trying to question what I was saying. I just didn’t want you to think I was some nutcase telling you to only submit articles with redirects directly to the vendor lol
After creating the feeds from Yahoo Pipes, how many should you submit to the different rss directories like goldenfeed at one time?
If they are all from Yahoo pipes can they block me because they think I am spamming them?
Should I submit a couple each day or every other day or all at once?
Also, I think you talked about this before, but am I right in thinking that I only need to submit a particular feed once to each rss directory. Someone told me that I need to resubmit every few weeks. I don’t think that is right. Your thoughts?
There are a couple different ways you could go about it…
You could submit them all at once under one account, but they probably would block you sooner or later
What I would suggest is to either set up a couple of different accounts to submit RSS feeds or to submit 2 or 3 a day to make it more natural.
Most of the RSS directories will update your feeds and keep them,but there are some that you will need to “freshen up” every so often. I use RSS bot so every 2 weeks or so I will just submit them all over again because it is automated.
For the ezine signature box - I can’t figure out how to include the anchor text with the hyper link. Do I just put the html code right into the signature box?
Can you tell me for the following signature - what did you put into the signature box (with the ‘Lose Weight Fast’ and ‘Click Here’ being hyperlinks to the site):
If you are tired of the ups and downs of weight loss you can Lose Weight Fast and all you have to do is Click Here!
Once you obtain your spreadsheet from your outsourcer that creates all these accounts for you what do you do with the information? Do you submit the urls to the RSS aggregator is this something your outsourcer is doing also?
Does your outsourcer set up your accounts in forums or these PR locations that are furnished to you from Angela Edwards, make posts with your URL in it and then send you the accounts and what was posted back to you? Or are they sending to social websites also? How does this backlink option actually work?
jwillin, with many of the sites that Angela provides you can get the backlink by just putting your URL in your profile
So, the person that I outsource to will set up the account and put my url of choice in my profile…done deal!
If they require the url in the signature file, the person will create a post in the “welcome” part of the forum or something like that to get a link to stick.
When is the outsourcing plan coming? I’m looking forward to that one. You’ve probably given enough information already that we can figure it out for ourselves but if you’re willing to hand us a blueprint on a silver platter, I’m not complaining.
Sorry for the late question - - life kinda got in the way and I’m just now finishing this up. I’m looking at promoting physical products and would much rather use something like Squidoo instead of EZA so I could include graphics, html, etc. But lately it seems like Squidoo’s Google rankings are in the tank (and Hubpages doesn’t seem to rank all that well either). In your opinion, would Yahoo Pipes and Angela’s backlinks be enough to lift a Squid lens out of Google’s dungeon? Or, what would be your plan of attack for promoting large, ‘flashy’ physical products?
January 28th, 2009 at 11:17 pm
Jeremy,
If it is easier to get backlinks for a webpage through social bookmarking sites than it is with articles, why not just create a webpage which reviews the product and point your aricles to it? Perhaps this would also make it convert a little better?
-Bruce
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Jeremy Reply:
January 28th, 2009 at 11:35 pm
Bruce, It is probably easier to get backlinks to a regular website than it is articles….
What most people don’t understand is that getting your articles to rank allows you to take up more than one position in the search engines, more importantly, more than one position on the front page.
Not to mention the fact that I am already getting traffic daily from the articles whereas if I just had a page out there I probably wouldn’t be getting very much traffic at all yet.
Having a presell page is important, but getting articles ranked and getting residual traffic is what makes article marketing worth the time.
[Reply]
January 28th, 2009 at 11:53 pm
What about this? You currently have all your articles pointing to the product site. What if you pointed all your articles to a presell page and still built backlinks to your articles as you described? In my mind, you would probably see a better conversion rate because you are pre-selling in addition to having your articles occupying a number of positions in the search engines.
One more question regarding Angela Edwards’ WSO. I was under the impression that incoming links needed to be relevent to your content. Obviously, the links she provides aren’t going to be specifically related to your particular niche. For instance, having a hockey site pointing to your penis enlargement article. How do the search engines see this? Could you please elaborate?
-Bruce
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Jeremy Reply:
January 29th, 2009 at 12:04 am
Bruce, I definitely agree with the need for presell pages and sites in general
I have them for almost every last one of my niches. But, the thing that we are trying to show here is how to get the most traffic from articles. More importantly, what steps need to be taken to obtain good rankings.
As far as links being relevant, some of the sites that she has provided allowed you to get a PR link on Adobe and some other high profile sites. These types of sites will help you regardless of the content
Look at it this way too…Most of our links regardless of the niches we are in come from article directories, social bookmarking, and other similar strategies, right? Most of the sites themselves have nothing at all to do with the content on our actual website.
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zerofill Reply:
January 29th, 2009 at 8:01 am
The difference being…Google highly respects, Nasa, Adobe, Microsoft (well not really them lol), and many of the other large sites out there that are considered the go to people for their respective niches/industries. Many are billion dollar companies. Google’s algorithm will look at these links as… “Well if these bad boys think this site is worth a damn and casting their vote then that is ok with us!”
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January 29th, 2009 at 12:21 am
I understand what you are saying. However, am I on to something with the process I described? Keep in mind, I am new to all of this and trying to piece together an effective strategy for myself. In no way am I trying to debate with you or question your tactics.
Thanks for the clarification about the links. There is so much contradicting information about this stuff. I have a hard time knowing what to believe. I guess the best thing to do is get out there and take action rather than analyzing every little detail.
-Bruce
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Jeremy Reply:
January 29th, 2009 at 12:38 am
Bruce, you have the right idea
I didn’t think you were trying to question what I was saying. I just didn’t want you to think I was some nutcase telling you to only submit articles with redirects directly to the vendor lol
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January 29th, 2009 at 12:35 am
After creating the feeds from Yahoo Pipes, how many should you submit to the different rss directories like goldenfeed at one time?
If they are all from Yahoo pipes can they block me because they think I am spamming them?
Should I submit a couple each day or every other day or all at once?
Also, I think you talked about this before, but am I right in thinking that I only need to submit a particular feed once to each rss directory. Someone told me that I need to resubmit every few weeks. I don’t think that is right. Your thoughts?
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Jeremy Reply:
January 29th, 2009 at 12:40 am
Well….
There are a couple different ways you could go about it…
You could submit them all at once under one account, but they probably would block you sooner or later
What I would suggest is to either set up a couple of different accounts to submit RSS feeds or to submit 2 or 3 a day to make it more natural.
Most of the RSS directories will update your feeds and keep them,but there are some that you will need to “freshen up” every so often. I use RSS bot so every 2 weeks or so I will just submit them all over again because it is automated.
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January 29th, 2009 at 2:08 pm
Can you help me out with something?
For the ezine signature box - I can’t figure out how to include the anchor text with the hyper link. Do I just put the html code right into the signature box?
Can you tell me for the following signature - what did you put into the signature box (with the ‘Lose Weight Fast’ and ‘Click Here’ being hyperlinks to the site):
If you are tired of the ups and downs of weight loss you can Lose Weight Fast and all you have to do is Click Here!
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January 29th, 2009 at 9:10 pm
[Click Here!]
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January 29th, 2009 at 9:10 pm
Sorry I will leave it to the pro’s.
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January 30th, 2009 at 4:03 pm
Thanks!
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February 2nd, 2009 at 4:13 am
Jeremy,
Once you obtain your spreadsheet from your outsourcer that creates all these accounts for you what do you do with the information? Do you submit the urls to the RSS aggregator is this something your outsourcer is doing also?
Does your outsourcer set up your accounts in forums or these PR locations that are furnished to you from Angela Edwards, make posts with your URL in it and then send you the accounts and what was posted back to you? Or are they sending to social websites also? How does this backlink option actually work?
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Jeremy Reply:
February 5th, 2009 at 5:05 pm
jwillin, with many of the sites that Angela provides you can get the backlink by just putting your URL in your profile
So, the person that I outsource to will set up the account and put my url of choice in my profile…done deal!
If they require the url in the signature file, the person will create a post in the “welcome” part of the forum or something like that to get a link to stick.
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February 5th, 2009 at 4:33 pm
When is the outsourcing plan coming? I’m looking forward to that one. You’ve probably given enough information already that we can figure it out for ourselves but if you’re willing to hand us a blueprint on a silver platter, I’m not complaining.
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Jeremy Reply:
February 5th, 2009 at 5:05 pm
Adam, I will be putting it up tonight along with some other stuff
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February 5th, 2009 at 6:02 pm
AWESOME!!!
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March 30th, 2009 at 10:18 am
Do some research through google or yahoo. SE always help.
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Jeremy Reply:
March 30th, 2009 at 10:19 am
lol…
I didn’t even know that anyone still came to this site
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April 7th, 2009 at 5:50 pm
Jeremy,
Sorry for the late question - - life kinda got in the way and I’m just now finishing this up. I’m looking at promoting physical products and would much rather use something like Squidoo instead of EZA so I could include graphics, html, etc. But lately it seems like Squidoo’s Google rankings are in the tank (and Hubpages doesn’t seem to rank all that well either). In your opinion, would Yahoo Pipes and Angela’s backlinks be enough to lift a Squid lens out of Google’s dungeon? Or, what would be your plan of attack for promoting large, ‘flashy’ physical products?
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